From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TAB in Eval: prompt in minibuffer? Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 02:57:27 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87y82wxtoo.fsf@jurta.org> References: <4394DED5.2070500@student.lu.se> <87zmnf7y62.fsf@jurta.org> <200512070058.55299.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <87r78p9zyt.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134006098 4294 80.91.229.2 (8 Dec 2005 01:41:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, pogonyshev@gmx.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 02:41:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkAlV-0007xd-3l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 02:40:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkAll-0004lR-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:40:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkAla-0004jF-HO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:40:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkAlZ-0004iG-Mr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkAlZ-0004i6-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:40:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EkAmU-0002aH-PK; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:41:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-37-157-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.37.157]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4C41A63; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 03:40:10 +0200 (EET) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed, 07 Dec 2005 17:59:20 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47190 Archived-At: > BTW, info.el dropped M-TAB in favor of S-TAB. Unfortunately, this > makes `Info-prev-reference' inaccessible on ttys where S-TAB is not > available. I think info.el, help.el and wid-edit.el should bind both > S-TAB and M-TAB to the same commands: S-TAB for window environments, > and M-TAB for ttys. > > Could someone please look at the discussion that led to defining > S-TAB in info.el, and see what the motives were? In http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2003-08/msg00155.html Paul proposed a patch that adds S-TAB to info.el. This is unquestionably a good change for desktop environments where M-TAB is not available for Emacs, but S-TAB is a standard key to go to the previous link. However, on 2003/08/29 you installed a different patch in CVS, that adds S-TAB and removes M-TAB. I don't know the reason for removing M-TAB and can't find what led you to it. M-TAB is necessary for ttys where S-TAB is not available. I think both keys S-TAB and M-TAB should be bound to the same command. So the same command will be accessible with a key on all environments. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/