From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Mode_switch and LEIM Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:02:26 -0500 Message-ID: <87y8231bud.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: <200512281541.jBSFfXUQ013499@copa.pajato.com> <200512292110.08239.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <87r77v3dt8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200512292313.02799.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135915373 29332 80.91.229.2 (30 Dec 2005 04:02:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 05:02:52 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EsBTe-0003uI-PM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 05:02:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EsBV2-0001HS-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:04:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EsBUs-0001H8-Eo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:04:06 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EsBUq-0001Gs-Ks for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:04:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EsBUq-0001Gp-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:04:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.34] (helo=tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EsBVB-0003bv-3M; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:04:25 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([67.71.26.159]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20051230040226.XZR20927.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:02:26 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0933D7697; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:02:26 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev In-Reply-To: <200512292313.02799.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (Paul Pogonyshev's message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:13:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Originating-IP: [0] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48533 Archived-At: > When I configure `xkb' to make right Alt disable the current layout while > pressed, I expect right Alt to disable the current layout, sort of. When > in Emacs right Alt is essentially ignored ([right Alt]-=D1=8A types `=D1= =8A' just as > simple `=D1=8A' does), that has no useful value for me at all. [ Note to self: remember that whenever he writes "right alt" it really means "the key labelled `alt' to right of the space bar which in my configuration sends the Mode_Switch event". ] Do you have a key =D1=8A on your keyboard? Or do you use an input method to get this? If so, is it an XIM or LEIM input method? Which XIM (or which LEIM as the case may be) input method was it? >>From the last time you brought up this issue, I'd guess that you're using a LEIM input method. LEIM ignores the Mode_switch event. You should currently use C-\ instead (and yes, I know it can't be used as a modifier so it's a bit different). > Yes, I'm proposing that LEIM behaves more like `xkb' layout switcher. Do > you not see that they do the same thing: they switch layouts? Do you not > agree that when there are such strong parallels between two different > mechanism functionalities, it is very convenient when they also have the > same interface? Nobody rejected your proposition. You'll just have to find someone to write the patch for it. Stefan