From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dieter Wilhelm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual mentioning thumbs mode but not tumme Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:00:56 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87y7ktif0n.fsf@debby.local.net> References: <87slb8szz9.fsf@debby.local.net> <17947.65334.841905.101671@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17949.22877.645175.478069@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17950.43941.498605.877229@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <876481t7mu.fsf@debby.local.net> <7dbe73ed0704130201n1c365d4cy9635c1e84886a710@mail.gmail.com> <87wt0frzs0.fsf@debby.local.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176667294 9265 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2007 20:01:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, mathias.dahl@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 15 22:01:28 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdAud-000524-4W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:01:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HdAz9-0003OD-KG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HdAz3-0003Ld-LC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HdAz2-0003KU-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HdAz2-0003KG-MD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HdAuU-0008QA-Dc; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [84.167.31.41] (helo=debby.local.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1HdAuP1bXJ-000465; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:01:13 +0200 Original-Received: from dieter by debby.local.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HdAu8-0000xu-C2; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:00:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 14 Apr 2007 11\:55\:52 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+1D4eHYlkp/k614o6ayGMPJ5sYy1wXBJ0OjDq j7glolA4psvRvBAt1lHBDx/43cCq0R2n77ivF2qnIalsOCEZVQ oNVgfGhKjMymcCwb3JRsu88GJVRgMV4 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69468 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > But then: So are your arguments for removing the packages 8-). > thumbs.el is small and therefore would not eat lots of resources (I > guess). > > The main cost of having thumbs.el is not the disk space it takes up. (I meant rather maintenance resources, manpower.) > It is the conceptual cost for users. Not so when the explanation for the existence of thumbs is so concise. The user is guided and recommended to tumme and in one sentence you could mention thumbs as an alternative for image viewing. The user has then the option to experiment. I still think that it would be (slightly) better for Emacs to retain thumbs. Thank you for your patience. -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Darmstadt, Germany