From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jesper Harder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: boxquote (was: Suggestion: Minor changes to etc/MORE.STUFF (diff attached)) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:33:08 +0200 Organization: http://purl.org/harder/ Message-ID: <87y7j2o50r.fsf_-_@Jesper-Harders-Computer.local> References: <851wgux0dg.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85wsymvjcz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85bqfyvidg.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <857iqmvgvh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1180791242 29244 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2007 13:34:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:34:02 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 02 15:34:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HuTjw-0000VV-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:33:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HuTjw-0005b4-7h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:33:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HuTjt-0005az-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:33:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HuTjr-0005an-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HuTjr-0005ak-Rk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:33:51 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HuTjr-0002Ip-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:33:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HuTjf-00055e-Tt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:33:39 +0200 Original-Received: from 0x5552821a.adsl.cybercity.dk ([85.82.130.26]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:33:39 +0200 Original-Received: from jesper.harder by 0x5552821a.adsl.cybercity.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:33:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 0x5552821a.adsl.cybercity.dk X-Face: ^RrvqCr7c,P$zTR:QED"@h9+BTm-"fjZJJ-3=OU7.)i/K]<.J88}s>'Z_$r; List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72050 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > No, since every news reader knows how to deal with those cited lines: > _those_ citations are _well-established_. Yes, the rules for quoting (or citing) what the previous author wrote are well established (prepend '>'), and you shouldn't mess with this format. I agree with you that Supercite is evil because it does that. But boxquote isn't about quoting the previous author. Its only purpose is to convey the same meaning in plain text as
would do in HTML. > mml-attach-file gives _every_ mail client a chance to make the > included file available in a readable manner, suitably for > requoting, resending, extraction, manipulation. MIME attachments aren't really intended for small inline quotes. It would probably work reasonably well most of the time in Gnus, but it's not a viable solution because: 1. Attachments are frowned upon on most of Usenet. 2. The way inline text attachments are displayed by many clients would make this very unfriendly for (probably) the majority of readers. > boxquote.el doesn't. You need rectangle operations and similar > stuff not usually available in a mail client to have a remote chance > of cutting and pasting the content. I see your point. But you would also need some text manipulation to remove the leading spaces if you just display the blockquote in the simplest way by indentation, e.g. Emacs is the extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time display editor. This Info file describes how to edit with Emacs and some of how to customize it; it corresponds to GNU Emacs version 22.0.91.