From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display.texi: (,) isn't documented. Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:57:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87y7iw7nlu.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <20070605231947.GA2058@muc.de> <853b14q351.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181167084 12343 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2007 21:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:58:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 06 23:58:03 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hw3Vy-00074T-LF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:58:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3Vy-0002xt-6K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3Vu-0002xD-6n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:57:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3Vt-0002wx-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3Vt-0002wq-I9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hw3Vt-0001ai-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3Ve-000452-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:57:42 +0200 Original-Received: from i577bfd3a.versanet.de ([87.123.253.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:57:42 +0200 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i577bfd3a.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:57:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i577bfd3a.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72375 Archived-At: On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:44:26 +0200 David Kastrup wrote: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> I'm not sure what's so good about this, since "(561,2)" needs just as >> much space as "L561 C2" and seems less consistent. >> >> I think I thought it would be more natural as a way to state >> two-dimensional coordinates. > > I think it is much more legible. One tends to parse L and C as part > of the number. But it is hard to say what to do when either may be > absent. > > Maybe something like 561: and :2 and 561:2 ? That's visually > formatted, pretty understandable (also has some relation to error > message formatting), and even more compact. I often like to be able to quickly see the number of point (e.g., while debugging), so my mode lines often contain a string like this: "L29 C20 P1217". This contains all the information I need, and I find it more easily parsable than "29:20:1217" or "(29,20,1217)" (the latter also isn't a natural extension of the coordinate analogy). Steve Berman