From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_H=FChn?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display.texi: (,) isn't documented. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:45:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87y7ivbwfv.fsf@mid.thomas-huehn.de> References: <874plkkc3s.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181231277 7104 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2007 15:47:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:47:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 07 17:47:55 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HwKDI-0008NW-HX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:47:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwKDI-0006WV-8I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:47:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwKDD-0006TY-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwKDC-0006RJ-6T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwKDC-0006R6-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HwKDB-0006A1-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:47:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HwKC5-000247-Dw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:46:37 +0200 Original-Received: from p54a0d504.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.160.213.4]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:46:37 +0200 Original-Received: from newsgroups by p54a0d504.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:46:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54a0d504.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SXichERt0Q8MSfX78iY2QctqCOE= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72421 Archived-At: "Juanma Barranquero" writes: >> . (34,67) and 34:67 are not clear about which is >> horizontal and which is vertical. > > No, but many files have much more lines than columns, and it's really > just a convention. Once you've used it for a while, it's automatic. Also, "a line forward" is usually considered a bigger change than "a character forward". In "usual" writing systems at least. If you are looking for a specific position you first locate the correct line and then the character in this line. In analogy to writing down numbers (higher-value components come first), lines should be first. Unless Emacs goes the step to some totally writing-system-agnostic editor where writing from top to bottom (or the other way around) is just as easy as from left to right. Thomas