From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: apropos commands for commands, user options, all functions, all variables Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:40:07 +0900 Message-ID: <87y7dx9diw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192948784 16220 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2007 06:39:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 21 08:39:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IjUTO-0004EK-3Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:39:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjUTG-0002hH-H0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:39:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjUTC-0002dE-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:39:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjUT9-0002Wh-Eo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:39:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjUT9-0002WO-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:39:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IjUT8-0002C7-Ln for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:39:27 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68A68001; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:39:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 975101A2E12; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:40:07 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20070621) XEmacs Lucid X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81341 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Users should be able to find and use commands that give them info about (a) > all vars, (b) all functions, (c) just commands, and (d) just user options; > and the names of those commands should reflect what they do. FWIW, XEmacs has had `C-h a' bound to `hyper-apropos' (dunno if this exists in Emacs) which returns all variables and functions with non-void values and function cells respectively, for a decade now, with no complaints about verboseness that I can remember. > Similarly, we should rename `set-variable' to `set-option' and define a new > `set-variable' command that sets any variable, not just a user option. (I > have defined such a command in my own code, but I just call it > `set-any-variable', for now.) Why not just make `setq' interactive?