From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Joachim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:13:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87y7b4c9o9.fsf@gmx.de> References: <58d982de0801051050k776e119fp872b0093edcab9a4@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199563998 25591 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2008 20:13:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gianluca Della Vedova , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 05 21:13:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBFOk-0001LP-KU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:13:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBFON-0003Hz-Tj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:13:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBFOK-0003Ht-AO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:13:12 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBFOI-0003Hh-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:13:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBFOI-0003Hd-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBFOI-000642-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Jan 2008 20:13:08 -0000 Original-Received: from p54865495.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO debian) [84.134.84.149] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 05 Jan 2008 21:13:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18AgFQSw6EA3FJtNkKZjie7AX/PdDsViilPfBU2+B J03kuNg2LaWnsw In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:51:53 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86225 Archived-At: On 2008-01-05 20:51 +0100, Drew Adams wrote: >> Each bug is given a number, and is kept on >> file until it is marked as having been dealt with. > > That *really* sounds like asking for trouble. It deletes the bug history for > a bug that someone deemed had been "dealt with"? No. The bug is merely archived, meaning that it normally is not shown any more, unless you ask for it. But its history is never lost.¹ > Hard to believe. Bug histories should never be deleted. It should always be > possible to revisit a bug, including to be able to reopen a closed bug. That is all possible with debbugs; if a bug is archived, you first have to "unarchive" it before you can manipulate it. That measure ensures that spam sent to archived bugs is discarded. Sven ¹ Some of the early Debian bugs _are_ lost, however, because of bugs in the early versions of `debbugs'.