From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (re)display problems after font backend merge Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:28:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87y7615hn2.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <87fxsjmmo2.fsf@escher.local.home> <87fxsiczun.fsf@escher.local.home> <482E4EB0.3070003@harpegolden.net> <87wslti040.fsf@escher.local.home> <482EE57C.8050009@harpegolden.net> <87ve1cn5dz.fsf@escher.local.home> <482FA2EE.7010900@harpegolden.net> <873aofscdz.fsf@escher.local.home> <87lk226ppg.fsf@escher.local.home> <4836450B.7000403@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211545818 12124 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2008 12:30:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:30:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 23 14:30:58 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JzWQE-0000Z6-1c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 14:30:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40094 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzWPT-0005cw-7R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzWPO-0005aZ-5V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JzWPM-0005X8-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40694 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JzWPM-0005Wu-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:35694 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JzWPM-0006Iv-3d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 08:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JzWPK-00067L-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 May 2008 12:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: from i5387e593.versanet.de ([83.135.229.147]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 May 2008 12:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i5387e593.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 May 2008 12:30:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i5387e593.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97583 Archived-At: On Fri, 23 May 2008 05:16:11 +0100 David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Stephen Berman wrote: >> >> The (active) mode line face now displays Helvetica correctly. Note, >> however, that in the inactive mode line face the characters are wider, > > And not anti-aliased? Indeed not. > Was this still with FontBackend: xft Yes. > And [welcome to complication, Level 2] did you have fontconfig/xft set > to allow bitmap fonts or not? While most linux distros now default to > "no", if fontconfig/xft /is/ using bitmap fonts, then "new" font > handling can still, depending of course on the font, result in > x-core-font-like-in-appearance rendering, you see! (including in emacs > with FontBackend: xft, as far as I can tell. Hmmm.) > > At least if you're on debian or a debian-oid (e.g. ubuntu...), this is > usually controlled by which one of > /etc/fonts/conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf or > /etc/fonts/conf.avail/70-no-bitmaps.conf > is symlinked in to /etc/fonts/conf.d/ > (if you change this, you may have to run fc-cache -fv ) > > I recommend "no". Unless you really have a need of particular glyphs > from or just can't live without some old favorite (probably monospace) > bitmap font I guess. My system has the above files and directories. There was no symlink from either of those files, so I added the "no" one, as you suggested, ran fc-cache -fv, and then emacs -q. Helvetica is still not anti-aliased. Steve Berman