From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pretest, devel and bug lists Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 00:03:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87y75uulvl.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <874p8iq121.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212012252 6921 80.91.229.12 (28 May 2008 22:04:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:04:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 29 00:04:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K1TlG-000451-BO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 May 2008 00:04:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1TkV-00061i-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:03:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1TkR-00061d-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K1TkP-00061R-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34079 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K1TkP-00061O-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:03:53 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:49998 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K1TkP-0004lh-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 18:03:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K1TkN-0000UJ-3Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:03:51 +0000 Original-Received: from i5387d986.versanet.de ([83.135.217.134]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:03:51 +0000 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i5387d986.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 22:03:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i5387d986.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97935 Archived-At: On Wed, 28 May 2008 15:48:58 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> The way things are setup now: >>> >>> - all mail to bug-gnu-emacs first goes through the bug-tracker. >>> I.e. all mail received by bug-gnu-emacs recipients comes from the >>> bug-tracker. >>> - emacs-pretest-bug and emacs-devel are competely separate from the >>> bug-tracker. > >> Does this mean that bug reports sent to emacs-pretest-bug will not >> get assigned a bug number anymore? > > They never have, AFAIK (except for a temporarily bug in my mail filter > and except for those that someone manually forwarded to the bug-tracker). But you *are* in favor of using the bug tracker for bug reports about development Emacs, i.e., what emacs-pretest-bug is now used for, right? At least that is how I understand your reply (>) to my post (>>) in this thread: >> If this is done, should *no* bug reports be sent any longer to >> emacs-devel (and if they were, would that lower their chances of getting >> attended to)? It might be helpful for a maintainer to issue a policy >> statement (preferably clearly recognizable as such) about this. > > Bug reports linked to transient problems (e.g, bootstrap problems) > should not go to the bug tracker. Any other bug report which you want > people to attend to eventually should go to the bug tracker (where it's > more difficult to let them disappear). > > > Stefan I support at least routing posts to emacs-pretest-bug to the bug tracker, and would also like to see a full-featured Emacs interface to it. Steve Berman