From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Teemu Likonen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:43:14 +0300 Message-ID: <87y6da7dv1.fsf@mithlond.arda> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87iq4f8gyh.fsf@telefonica.net> <874ofzl2ji.fsf@mithlond.arda> <201007162023.32116.tassilo@member.fsf.org> <87zkxrjihf.fsf@mithlond.arda> <8739vjf2k2.fsf@gmail.com> <8739vi8x39.fsf@mithlond.arda> <87lj9ak1zh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279352636 24181 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2010 07:43:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 17 09:43:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa23q-0003Vh-CI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:43:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oa23p-0005i4-Qr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52029 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oa23j-0005ht-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:43:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa23i-0004n4-Uq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:43:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mta-out.inet.fi ([195.156.147.13]:42752 helo=kirsi2.inet.fi) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa23X-0004l7-UZ; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:43:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mithlond.arda (84.251.132.215) by kirsi2.inet.fi (8.5.122) id 4C33307D004C8D4F; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:43:30 +0300 Original-Received: from dtw by mithlond.arda with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa23G-00019U-MM; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:43:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87lj9ak1zh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:21:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127492 Archived-At: * 2010-07-17 09:21 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote: > Teemu Likonen writes: >> (I believe that there would be noticeable new interest towards Emacs >> if it, for example, announced that its version 25.1 has added a mode >> that switches to ergonomic key bindings.) > > Get off it. I hope you noticed that I really just wanted to create new global key bindings for _myself_. But even that's not practically possible in the Emacs environment as a whole. With the established practice the current default bindings are consistent even though they are ergonomically suboptimal.