From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Silk icon set for Gnus and synchronizing it into Emacs Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:27:37 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y63zksme.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87sjugi4rc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87aaglsvjk.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj05ohcf.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fwqdk7j7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipv8pcc8.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bp0zvhtl.fsf@ID-24456.user.uni-berlin.de> <5FE9F449-06DA-44E3-9239-9A88E78AB451@gmail.com> <87oc4zuoy9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <255C90E6-DAF8-4F8B-B87F-2B59FEE6BFC3@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301337102 15641 80.91.229.12 (28 Mar 2011 18:31:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:31:42 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 28 20:31:39 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4HE2-00063M-2t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:31:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57718 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4HAd-00035k-HU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:28:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48220 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4HAQ-00034T-PY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4HAN-0001SL-Am for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:54091) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4HAN-0001S5-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4HAL-0004WL-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:27:49 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:27:49 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:27:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:M+p+W1qimgrqPSJK76H6vGZQlEk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137788 Archived-At: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:09:53 -0700 chad wrote: c> On Mar 25, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> c> If that package contained all of the silk icons suggested, hundreds c> of them would still be wasted space. >> >> Silk is 4 MB unpacked. I don't think that's wasteful considering the >> benefits of a consistent, well-designed, comprehensive set of 700 icons. c> I understand that space is cheap, but under what circumstances will, c> (at a generous guess), 600 of those 700 icons *ever* be used? I can go through Emacs and point out uses for all of those icons. The question is really "will they get used?" and I believe so, partly because I'll try to convince developers to use them by making iconset.el really convenient compared to: c> All the circumstances I see include a step like ``...and a developer c> writes some code that adds a button, using a currently-unused icon c> from the silk set...'' - at which point the developer will 99% of the c> time pick the icon and include it in the library/package anyway. So, the idea is to provide iconset.el+iconset-silk.el so developers don't have to do this elementary, repetitive, wasteful work, and so they don't end up with the Gnus situation where a collection of icons is thrown into a directory and... that's it. Ted