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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New function: secure-random-bytes
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:10:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y60nb6gz.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4E04CA7B.2020101@cs.ucla.edu

On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:33:47 -0700 Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote: 

PE> On 06/24/11 02:57, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> Do you think you could you provide three functions,
>> `secure-random-bytes-{urandom,gnutls,openssl}' instead of three versions
>> with the same name?

PE> I dunno, I kind of like the simpler interface.
PE> It's better to have the notion of a random-source,
PE> independent of the notion of generating random bytes from it.
PE> Whether that source should be represenated by an atom or
PE> by something else is a different matter.

At least for GnuTLS it would make sense to put the function that
actually calls GnuTLS at the C level in gnutls.c.  Ditto for OpenSSL.

Beyond that, it can be abstracted any way you like :)  My way was just a
suggestion.

PE> I suggest using ISAAC-64, which is what coreutils' random-bytes
PE> generators use by default.  (Coreutils originally defaulted to
PE> /dev/urandom, but users complained because that was too slow.)
PE> On my list of things to do is to gnulib-ize the coreutils
PE> ISAAC-64 and random-bytes generators, and I can do that if
PE> there's interest.

Works for me.  I think you're right about the /dev/urandom performance.

Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-24  7:50 New function: secure-random-bytes Leo
2011-06-24  9:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-24 17:33   ` Paul Eggert
2011-06-25  7:26     ` Leo
2011-06-27 16:10     ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2013-03-18 10:26     ` Leo Liu
2013-03-18 16:48       ` Paul Eggert
2013-03-18 21:07         ` Romain Francoise
2019-05-15 12:09         ` Julian Scheid
2019-05-16 17:34           ` Paul Eggert
2011-06-24 13:33 ` James Cloos
2011-06-25  7:27   ` Leo

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