From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unwarranted invocation of starttls Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:27:59 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y5tn43hs.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <83aa67s5zo.fsf@gnu.org> <834nwfs0k2.fsf@gnu.org> <83zke4po98.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5tn7mnx.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325708911 29376 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 20:28:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:28:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 21:28:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiXRh-0003YF-Q7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:28:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44363 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiXRh-0000xR-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:28:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37983) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiXRc-0000xG-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:28:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiXRX-0003rs-Et for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:28:20 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:33373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiXRX-0003ro-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiXRV-0003Rt-74 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:28:13 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:28:13 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:28:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Fi6P+OOfesuyj198gS1vOo+gEnI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147291 Archived-At: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:39:27 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> It can work, with a lot of fiddling, but is unreliable and causes many >> issues that are hard to replicate, timeouts especially. I don't know of >> anyone happily using it on W32 and think disabling it on W32 is a good >> choice. LMI> If it can work, isn't there a way to make it work reliably? Where does LMI> it fail, usually? I don't know the answer to either question, you'll have to search through the Gnus bugs for the last 10 years. LMI> But if this is the case, I can add a test like LMI> (memq system-type '(windows-nt ms-dos)) LMI> to `starttls-available-p'... Opinions? Works For Me. Ted