From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Lua mailing list <lua-l@lists.lua.org>,
immerrr again <immerrr+lua@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Last call for lua-mode contributors
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:20:30 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5t1kagx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvaa5io3yx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:17:09 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> [lua-mode redefines "_" as a word-component; it shouldn't, as it
>> really messes with users' instincts, and makes Emacs commands less
>> useful. Historically this was often done by language-modes as an
>
> BTW, this reminds me: why do word-based movement commands even care
> about the syntax-table? I understand that it's the way they're
> currently implemented, but AFAICT we don't actually want their behavior
> to depend on the major mode, do we?
Dunno, I suppose sometimes maybe it is reasonable to allow the details
to be tweaked; it's "consistency of feel" which is the goal, which may
not always entail literal consistency....
For instance: is a single-quote part of a word?
In text-mode, it is, and that makes some sense, because single-quotes
are mostly followed by a single letter to form a contracted thingie.
Having word commands stop at the single-letter boundary in such cases
would be pretty annoying and not particularly useful, and generally
wouldn't feel "right" (even though there's a visual boundary).
However in some programming language mode that uses single-quotes like
Ada does, as an operator, you really want them to be punctuation,
because they are used to separate independent pieces that are thought of
as independent.
-Miles
--
Discriminate, v.i. To note the particulars in which one person or thing is,
if possible, more objectionable than another.
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2012-01-18 4:32 ` Last call for lua-mode contributors Miles Bader
2012-01-19 17:15 ` Ken Raeburn
2012-01-19 18:57 ` Underscores and word commands Stefan Monnier
2012-01-19 20:39 ` John Yates
2012-01-20 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-20 5:12 ` Last call for lua-mode contributors Miles Bader
2012-01-20 7:12 ` Ken Raeburn
2012-01-20 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-21 3:20 ` Miles Bader [this message]
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