From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:50:20 +0900 Message-ID: <87y5p2nhc3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <871umzrvfw.fsf@gmail.com> <87wr4rqg6g.fsf@gmail.com> <83d36j59gv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4uz58e3.fsf@sec.modprobe.de> <83aa1n57p4.fsf@gnu.org> <5D17181ED92C4552AE8D4404DD035CA0@us.oracle.com> <87vck8sfyv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85obq05aua.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <87r4uvs4ae.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87397b15u7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336535431 7732 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2012 03:50:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 03:50:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 09 05:50:31 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SRxv3-0006gm-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 May 2012 05:50:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46900 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRxv2-0002QO-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 23:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRxv0-0002QJ-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 23:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRxuy-0003IR-Op for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 23:50:26 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]:52628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRxuy-0003Hk-FL; Tue, 08 May 2012 23:50:24 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.154.2.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.154.2] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1SRxuv-0006KL-Fd; Wed, 09 May 2012 12:50:21 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 83353DFC2; Wed, 9 May 2012 12:50:20 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 08 May 2012 20:47:41 -0400") Original-Lines: 25 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 203.216.5.73 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150382 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > The problem with those separators is just that they say nothing about > the contents, so the presenter (MUA) has to guess the content type, > which requires some parsing and can easily result in a wrong guess. Why it important for the MUA to know the content type of embedded code snippets? The main target is human readers, who can figure out that stuff with almost zero effort from context and/or looking at the code. AFAICT, this sort of feature stems more from "OMGWIBN" ("OMG, wouldn't it be neat!") syndrome than actual demand... Given the lack of actual demand, even a minor impact on readability is too much. [The current behavior of Gnus, certainly, is just awful in this respect -- not only are the delimiters ugly and detrimental to readability, but so is the visual highlighting (on my system, a wacky bright green color) that seems to be the only thing Gnus does with it...!] -Miles -- Fast, small, soon; pick any 2.