From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add the archive name column in the list-packages table Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:59:52 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y54hbv9j.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> References: <87wql1w6io.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87r4axu4dm.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3gorvs4.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87eh6adbqr.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87ob5easv5.fsf@gmail.com> <8738mpde1p.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87a9gxom9x.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385049561 28639 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 15:59:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:59:21 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 16:59:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjWf7-0000dK-Ky for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33899 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjWf7-0002rj-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:59:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjWez-0002ps-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:59:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjWet-0006fG-MJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:59:17 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58928) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjWet-0006eu-FG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:59:11 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjWes-0000VF-Bm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:10 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:10 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:59:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Y2aOZ86Ul2TIBCRmTlzu4pM/z4Q= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165488 Archived-At: On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:05:38 +0530 Jambunathan K wrote: JK> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> They wouldn't know what icon corresponds to what repository. JK> You mean Gnu Icon wouldn't be recognized by Emacs users? That's not what I said. The user has to know that the GNU ELPA ("gnu") repository is represented by the Gnu icon, while marmalade is a marmalade jar and melpa is a Melba wafer and ELPA is Tom Tromey's face :) This mapping is not intuitive or particularly useful IMO. Sometimes text really is better than an icon. >> You can, of course, do this on your own with text properties. JK> I am just making a general remark: Can or should Emacs use Icons. Your JK> post was just an excuse. Well, no, your remark was very specific about using icons in the package listings. That's a context where security (you have to be sure where a package is coming from) and usability (it must work in a terminal) are more important than in most Emacs use cases. I think in general Emacs should use icons more, but with care. See http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/137682 for a proposal (iconset.el) I still intend to pursue, though it's not high on my TODO list due to other priorities. Ted