From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:00:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87y50vbixk.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87ppmhecd8.fsf@yandex.ru> <87y50z90pd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87txbn8r6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8338j717oe.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjlf6tdx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sir7yue7.fsf@gnu.org> <8761o3dlak.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <834n3lzux6.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppm9d3y4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83ob1ty4qr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ha7lcxki.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83ios0xwcv.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnxscr0x.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83eh2oxpnw.fsf@gnu.org> <877g8gcl52.fsf@wanadoo.es> <871tyn4n1l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393585519 28378 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2014 11:05:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:05:19 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 28 12:05:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJLFt-0001EQ-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:05:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50437 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJLFt-0006fQ-89 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:05:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43093) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJLFk-0006fH-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:05:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJLFe-0002KK-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:05:16 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:53545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJLFe-0002KD-DQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 06:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJLFY-0008HB-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:05:04 +0100 Original-Received: from 19.red-83-39-162.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.39.162.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:05:04 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 19.red-83-39-162.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:05:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 19.red-83-39-162.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aRjzhz9gDS7RUX6mHZ2xUPU42h0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169935 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: [snip] >> It is obvious then that we have here a complete miscomunication, so I'll >> stop the discussion here. > > The miscommunication appears to be that you apparently are convinced > that coding C++ on a regular basis is impossible without using > crutches. You are completely lost at this. > It is my opinion that writing a code style that can neither be written > nor understood without reverting to computer help is a bad idea. FYI: I've coded C++ for almost 20 years. Never depended on that sort of tool. [more nonsense snipped]