From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Everyone, please stop making my life more difficult Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:59:58 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87y4tovngh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140912043652.4D6D8380604@snark.thyrsus.com> <83zje56ymd.fsf@gnu.org> <20140912083430.GA32586@thyrsus.com> <87mwa59i1r.fsf@igel.home> <87ioksx5v8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410538553 14297 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2014 16:15:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:15:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 12 18:15:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTVg-0000kv-Eb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:15:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTVf-00054t-Tq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:15:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45735) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTVC-0004tF-MI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:15:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTV4-0007rK-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTV4-0007pq-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:15:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTLL-0002G9-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:05:03 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f500ac.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.0.172]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:05:03 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f500ac.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:05:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f500ac.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YTIBIKI5kwjEcOZGzyD17ZoJzNI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174232 Archived-At: Sam Steingold writes: >> * Yuri Khan [2014-09-12 21:44:24 +0700]: >> >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:36 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> If the commit timestamp were anything but "tomorrow" it would be a bug. >>> The whole point of a commit timestamp is to track who created a commit >>> when. Since a rebase creates commits, obviously the commit timestamp >>> will correspond to the time of the rebase, and the commit author will >>> correspond to the person doing the rebase. >>> >>> Which is exactly why using "commit author/timestamp" is not going to cut >>> it as a unique identifier when rebases come into play. >> >> Neither does author/timestamp uniquely identify a commit in a >> rebaseful commit graph. But at least the commits having the same >> author/timestamp all conceptually represent the same change. > > Not at all - if we accept the notion that rebase changes timestamp. > E.g., if I work for a week making 20 separate unrelated commits on > different days and then rebase, then all the 20 commits will have the > same timestamp. Git has different timestamps for author and committer. Rebasing does not change author timestamp and identity. -- David Kastrup