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From: Michael Welsh Duggan <mwd@md5i.com>
To: peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:46:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4qyula2.fsf@maru2.md5i.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ks4mtm8gt7.fsf@netfonds.no> (Peder O. Klingenberg's message of "Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:14:12 +0100")

peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg) writes:

> On Tue, Nov 25 2014 at 18:55, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
>
>> 	Yes, although I’d rather question the necessity of building
>> 	Emacs ‘master’ on an LTS GNU/Linux system.  If the intent is to
>> 	use the last decade’s versions of Libc and Coreutils, – why
>> 	Emacs has to be newer than that?
>
> Because features.  My desktop machine runs Kubuntu 10.04 still, because
> it mostly does what I need without needing my attention all the time, it
> is a stable platform I can use to get work done.
>
> There is no conscious desire to run old software for nostalgias sake,
> more a lack of desire to upgrade willy-nilly with the associated
> breakage-fixing and retraining of muscle memory because some dimwits
> decided to reinvent everything badly.

Moreover, not everyone has complete control over their desktop.  At work
we have RHEL6.  I build Emacs for my own use.  I could build gnutls as
well, but my (recent) experience of that is hellish.  gnutls requires
nettle and gmp.  I build nettle, and then find out that gnutls doesn't
support the latest nettle.  So I grab an older nettle and build that.
Then it complains about HOGWEED.  Oh, libgmp needs to be installed
_before_ nettle is built to get HOGWEED.  I wish that had been
mentioned.  At this point, I give up for the day because I have to get
real work done.

-- 
Michael Welsh Duggan
(md5i@md5i.com)



      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-26 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 18:38 Build failure (master; MS-Windows) Dani Moncayo
2014-11-23 21:41 ` Dani Moncayo
2014-11-23 22:07   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-23 22:52     ` Dani Moncayo
2014-11-23 22:57       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-23 23:09         ` Dani Moncayo
2014-11-25  9:32           ` proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable) (was: Build failure (master; MS-Windows)) Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 15:57             ` proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 16:28               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 16:38                 ` Buildbot for Emacs? (was: proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable)) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 16:50                   ` Buildbot for Emacs? Glenn Morris
2014-11-25 16:55                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-25 22:15                       ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-25 23:12                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-26  9:52                         ` Tom
2014-11-25 17:05                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-25 22:14                       ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-25 17:34                 ` proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable) Stefan Monnier
2014-11-25 18:55               ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-26  9:14                 ` Peder O. Klingenberg
2014-11-26 12:57                   ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-26 13:47                     ` Peder O. Klingenberg
2014-11-26 13:08                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-26 14:12                     ` Peder O. Klingenberg
2014-11-26 15:42                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-26 16:52                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-26 21:18                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-26 21:37                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-27  2:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-27  2:33                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 18:51                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 19:31                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-29 20:02                               ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-26 13:46                   ` Michael Welsh Duggan [this message]

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