From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 11:59:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419597590 25984 80.91.229.3 (26 Dec 2014 12:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 12:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 26 13:39:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4UB7-0003Js-3i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 13:39:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53193 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4UB6-0007oY-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 07:39:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44902) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4UAf-0007kj-MW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 07:39:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4UAe-0004Dm-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 07:39:09 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4UAe-0004Dc-DX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 07:39:08 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38977 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4UAW-0001jY-V9; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 07:39:01 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC525E0CCC; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 11:59:58 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Fri, 26 Dec 2014 00:46:55 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180684 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > > > > The problem is not the size of the table, > > > > We are miscommunicating. I was not talking about the size of the > > data. > > Neither was I. > > > I was talking about the work of collecting the entries it should > > have. > > So was I. > > > It won't be so hard, because there won't be so many entries. > > That's why it's already done, and nobody has found anything missing > after 40 years of collecting entries, right? Unfortunately, wrong. > People find missing entries every day (and rarely report them; they > just use Google instead). Google substitutes better quality with graceful failure based on heuristics. That works for some things better than others. It certainly will not help much replacing a "concept index" since the whole point of a concept index is _not_ to be based on exact keywords. -- David Kastrup