From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:58:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87y4h7epdb.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> <55D15899.2070105@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817121513.GA2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D21191.8070202@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817173551.GB2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D29EA6.2020009@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818103921.GA2262@acm.fritz.box> <55D36132.1020900@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818171715.GD2262@acm.fritz.box> <55D3869E.30302@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818204211.GF2262@acm.fritz.box> <55D3A641.7040409@cs.ucla.edu> <87bne4fc7s.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87bne3wzzg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439967599 4666 80.91.229.3 (19 Aug 2015 06:59:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:59:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 19 08:59:49 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRxLd-0004AO-3c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:59:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60733 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRxLX-0005Jl-Jv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRxKo-0004Ua-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:58:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRxKk-0003B3-5m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRxKj-0003Aj-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:58:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRxKf-0003Ro-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:58:46 +0200 Original-Received: from 122.red-83-43-64.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.43.64.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:58:45 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 122.red-83-43-64.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:58:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.red-83-43-64.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:W/Ay5cy4BYAYTOL+kg5t3xV3U/I= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188935 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: [snip] > Emacs is the perfect environment to experiment with *discoverable* > *multilingual* input methods. In my experiments with Unicode in source code, input was the least of the concerns (as long as Emacs was used.) Display was the no-no part. Not because Emacs bugs or limitations, by the way. If the goal is to improve input for other scripts, I have no idea how forcing curly quotes in Emacs' source code will help. [snip] > > Maybe describing the specific user-visible improvements that this > > change will help to bring into reality would buy you more support. > > The user-visible improvements have been described and are easily > visible to the eye desiring to see them. Maybe I skipped the post that described the improvements, but what I've seem so far is "because it is modern", "because beginners think our current style is weird", "because other GNU projects use it", "because this will help improve our Unicode support"... Am I missing something? [snip]