From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:50:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4e4p5nn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87vb98csu1.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447278926 4588 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 21:55:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Development To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 22:55:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwdMN-0000CM-Kw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:55:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43210 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwdMN-0006TL-3c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwdMJ-0006TB-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwdMI-0006rt-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:55:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwdMI-0006rp-Op; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47544 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwdMI-0001kI-4o; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 938ECDF572; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:50:20 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87vb98csu1.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:08:06 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194160 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: > Arthur was well aware of this change, and even asked about it in his > first post in the thread "A few questions about open-line" [2]: > >> 3. I think, when electric-indent-mode is on, open-line should indent >> the line that was created below if it isn't empty. May I go ahead? > > Had I seen that question at the time, I would have answered "Oh, > please don't" :-). But maybe mine is a minority opinion? Let's find out. I'm with you on that one. To me it defeats a major point of C-o which, to me, is a tool similar to C-q C-j, namely used exactly in situations where you want to sidestep any intelligence. -- David Kastrup