From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaus Rath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 15:03:23 -0800 Message-ID: <87y49ruudg.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> References: <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87fuw090k7.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83y49spuxt.fsf@gnu.org> <87pov4achc.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <83r3fkpb3u.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh5rps0t.fsf@gnu.org> <56E066BD.5050403@cs.ucla.edu> <87lh5rv7kk.fsf@red-bean.com> <83pov3o62y.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn6nv3yw.fsf@red-bean.com> <838u1ro10g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457564624 23009 80.91.229.3 (9 Mar 2016 23:03:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 23:03:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 00:03:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adn8f-0005R9-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 00:03:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44978 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adn8e-0004oy-T8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59815) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adn8b-0004os-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:03:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adn8Y-0004p2-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:03:29 -0500 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:40081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adn8Y-0004oe-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465ED2080B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:03:24 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 Mar 2016 18:03:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=wwB29JpMpSLGzmx OBqacZaDVuFY=; b=EqKmgdjezROgHHGntCSJpoqCo1Qjwjr076tlxPmhnGkr1kr owpVbfUrmVOyfxwM3UTBEv96Sl/wWu2pJZpFvSA0EqolgHMN2Xvg5iqI3BaSZjVt zt7qmovjKtknSmHYggvs/p+IWAwlBPQ3K5RDSVQnEjcR+hWt1BtqshuhPCZk= X-Sasl-enc: YS/DaG8GuHtTvGECsvxnCB9MO25MqZETAkkUz1WRcMup 1457564604 Original-Received: from ebox.rath.org (ebox.rath.org [45.79.69.51]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0000AC00018 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 18:03:23 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from thinkpad.rath.org (thinkpad [192.168.12.2]) by ebox.rath.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B0FD210774 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 23:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by thinkpad.rath.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 13516C32DF; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 15:03:23 -0800 (PST) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <838u1ro10g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 09 Mar 2016 22:21:51 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.27 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201333 Archived-At: On Mar 09 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> How does dropping ChangeLog files cause us to not be able to ask for >> ChangeLog-style entries? > > I don't even need to explain that: there are already people in this > discussion who said they'd like to use a less formal format. I don't see any causal connection between these two statements. Some people have preferences that differ from current project standards. That will always be the case, no matter if ChangeLog files are dropped or not. > IOW, it's fortress -- if you dismantle one of its bastions, the others > will soon fall as well. The only way to avoid that is to hold all of > them. I think other people simply don't see it that way. Best, -Nikolaus --=20 GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F =C2=BBTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.=C2= =AB