From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:23:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87y41rjq3t.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <867f9t4n4t.fsf@realize.ch> <874m4x8sq5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8637kh4j1u.fsf@realize.ch> <87wpht4b1i.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86y4292m2u.fsf@realize.ch> <8737kd8vfh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <867f9n2r6s.fsf@realize.ch> <87a8egw2az.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360p3i2gt.fsf@gnu.org> <86a8efqf9p.fsf@realize.ch> <8337k7hysd.fsf@gnu.org> <8660p3qd99.fsf@realize.ch> <831szrhwsr.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p12qzw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83vax0en1u.fsf@gnu.org> <87pon5ek3q.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87twcgttjf.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86a8e7symk.fsf@realize.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476433488 11017 195.159.176.226 (14 Oct 2016 08:24:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:24:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alain Schneble Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 10:24:44 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1buxnC-0001ne-QI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:24:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buxnB-0003la-8h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:24:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42425) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buxma-0003lV-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buxmY-0001N7-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:44645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buxmS-0001Lm-8T; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 04:23:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=g7Lx3Wr1J2xuPbp9TpQkaAaTpq55cynguMcXbFU1A88=; b=bEctQkem+v/9veHBNaPKhTmD/W g9RhngwiaOop47AyZz/gdz8o6rU1FUnhjDp0RMWvoLFiWEWaeoOBe3zHqfZzCs3du92iK7XZFiCKM TjlYO+nK6F8phrkf1YZcPdIiZBUAt7HgTP7JlDIiXA0L/+xhDmzxs8XPatusBdWPvYKxl2PWZ57Vl RiSu+nD91QAFmMUCAPWy4lT9q6GbP98qNvz++ejrWjk/1qqY0TwQ5uep/WUXWOr10NHvtUcXjk9ui cR2eEU24aLV77au0NcJslQKJmjsM1w5URqk8jKiaGlqnyZOcoXrtH2zQ6UOkWK1+ZXlOaQrmrjpZQ sx5cOi7w==; Original-Received: from cpc14-benw10-2-0-cust305.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([92.234.125.50]:44866 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1buxmR-00342H-6q; Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:23:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:29:47 -0700") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 31.216.48.48 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208232 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> "AS" == Alain Schneble writes: > > AS> /usr/local/share/info/org.info.gz > AS> /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/etc/ORG-NEWS > AS> /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/etc/org/README > AS> /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/etc/org/.*\.xml > AS> /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/etc/refcards/orgcard.tex > AS> /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/org/.*\.(el\.gz|elc) > > AS> Unless I'm misundarstanding you, using your approach, all files will end > AS> up in /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp/org (using the example > AS> configuration I gave above). > > AS> Do you really want to give up this standard file structure? > > I think we should *not* give up the standard file structure. At least not now. > Using ELPA should feel "first class" for those authors contributing packages > that are to become part of the standard distribution. It can cut both ways, of course. It may well be that packages not in ELPA feel second class, because they are not "real" packages. I think the next step is to canvas opinion from other people. I know for myself as a package developer which I would prefer, but that's me. As we're discussing org a lot here, probably that would be a good place to start. Phil