From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A couple of things that I think should be in byte bytecode meta comments Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 20:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87y3l1lf0r.fsf@gnuvola.org> References: <83o9mqlin0.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8sildcd.fsf@gnu.org> <83fu81luke.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515878746 13138 195.159.176.226 (13 Jan 2018 21:25:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 21:25:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 13 22:25:42 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eaTJ2-0002oS-Mn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:25:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38723 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaTL2-0004aw-Df for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:27:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaTKv-0004aK-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:27:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaTKq-00021Q-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:27:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.agora-net.com ([67.59.132.6]:58027) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaTKp-0001zr-S6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:27:27 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by mail.agora-net.com with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eaTKm-0005yy-TO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:27:24 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eaRjv-0003ff-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 20:45:15 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel In-Reply-To: (Rocky Bernstein's message of "Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:44:34 -0500") X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ttn@gnuvola.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.agora-net.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 67.59.132.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221940 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () Rocky Bernstein () Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:44:34 -0500 Because Emacs is critically used, by necessity the overwhelming and more vocal group is in the "why?" the camp. There are other venues that have the luxury to be more in the "why not?" camp for things like this. I think many people are also trying to relate to you as a fellow hacker, on a "what could possibly go wrong" level, w/ varying bits of experience and familiarity (or lack thereof) of Emacs conventions, that inform their instincts. Personally, i think the =E2=80=98load=E2=80=99 conventions are well-entrenc= hed and so there is no real need to embed filename (can be reliably inferred for "normal" usage -- people wandering into the muck probably know what they're after, anyway, and can make do). An argument explicitly against embedding absolute filename would be the recent trend towards reproducible builds. Everyone is trying to catch up to Emacs' historical ignorance^Wbliss. :-D =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen ----------------------------------------------- (defun responsep (query) (pcase (context query) (`(technical ,ml) (correctp ml)) ...)) 748E A0E8 1CB8 A748 9BFA =2D-------------------------------------- 6CE4 6703 2224 4C80 7502 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlpaYcMACgkQZwMiJEyAdQI+wgCgmnyjQXQQOKmA1KaqL7aH6gTX gooAoKxUSEmMHw2h3+wcDiOWMg+eHxLO =77fE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--