From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:15:47 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87y3cdqwat.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus> <83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83pnxx1foj.fsf@gnu.org> <87bm9d9zs9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87efe75v02.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <87sh2lu471.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <282c6a86f8a2dabd7367c41d71cf31ab@webmail.orcon.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536331428 32176 195.159.176.226 (7 Sep 2018 14:43:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 14:43:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, Richard Stallman , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 16:43:43 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHz3-0008E9-JU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:43:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyI1A-0004jV-4y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:45:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37013) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHya-0003OX-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:43:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHya-00046g-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mo6-p01-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([2a01:238:20a:202:5301::10]:32128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHyZ-00044H-Ly; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:43:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1536331390; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=/Z1c2URpSE9+u9+RFI38jfIwj9FwRqiqrJoeK7f/9Nc=; b=sYKlgiszNk1BtdPa/Zf44dEdQspF39vZbEtEq8jr50N5QAHNqWiHV4eQvoJc8CdcFg Alz24QUDrfT3kEkk3GGeZWVmyCyeK82MSlFSkjx9fs2efV0QPH2TAVBdNqzoe5sirxow KqoSlfr74VEnpW/Gr3IXYKIfJaA9C0rfaGVrfX9HV65P9YJGL/CPThGQ8YP4Y8HTs20Y y7pMGxttnNrDclhdi65AVLMQ5UCGE3BQpwq2MOV57vXqpe2HLuJMNK1tqaiqGc6tCkYJ iOeUJpt6qUoKKvurV75mki2u1LhQWcq7ABNPMHH2hjFtJGNI6ap7nPOWq8a3SSsDF92v P7Iw== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+AVdIIwXjneEe9k=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Original-Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.0 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e03b99u87Eg6CgQ (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Fri, 7 Sep 2018 16:42:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fyHxV-0000yM-Pv; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:42:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <282c6a86f8a2dabd7367c41d71cf31ab@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (Phil Sainty's message of "Fri, 07 Sep 2018 22:26:17 +1200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a01:238:20a:202:5301::10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229412 Archived-At: Phil Sainty writes: >> There are only so many key bindings one can remember. > > > I really *urge* you to turn `menu-bar-mode' back on, permanently. I'd rather have it turned on or off automatically depending on which mode is active. > Whatever you feel you're gaining from hiding the menus surely can't be > of greater benefit to you than all the knowledge and functionality that > you're missing as a consequence? Well, I'm not missing anything. What would I be searching for in the menues, and why would I bother to look? Do you have an example? I never looked at the menu of cperl-mode, so what am I missing there?