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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239786 Archived-At: > Thanks for working on this. I think this feature would be an > important step forward for Emacs. I've now checked out and built the > branch and report my findings below. > > (FWIW, I find the names tab-bar-mode and global-tab-line-mode > confusingly similar. Could we find better and more descriptive names? > For example, global-tab-line-mode could be global-buffer-tab-mode.) Actually it's more related to window than to buffer. But global-window-tab-line-mode would be too long and not easy to type in e.g. M-x prompt. > Are you also looking for input regarding potential improvements the > user interface at this stage? Yes, please, now is the right time. > For example, would feedback similar to "I think the width of the tabs > under tab-bar-mode should be fixed" be helpful? In browsers the width of each tab depends on the number of tabs to share tab-bar space proportionally between all tabs. But we could add a numeric option for the fixed width. >> 0. emacs -Q >> 1. M-x tab-bar-mode RET >> 2. Click on the plus sign to create a new tab >> 3. Click on the previous tab >> 4. Click on the close icon > > When saying M-x tab-bar-mode here, the window flickers as if redrawing > but no tabs show up. The tabs do show up as soon as I resize the > window, or move it to a different workspace. (My window manager is > XMonad, a tiling window manager, and the Emacs frame is automatically > set to full screen and moved to a particular workspace after launch. > Not sure if that helps.) Thanks, it seems this is an essential detail that might be specific to your window manager. Do you see the same problem when saying M-x tool-bar-mode several times to turn the tool-bar on/off?