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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	rpluim@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rebasing vs. merging
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:49:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2mb0xu4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2mbxal7.fsf@iki.fi> (Teemu Likonen's message of "Wed, 19 Aug 2020 12:13:08 +0300")

Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> writes:

> Another "philosophical" issue with rebasing is that the resulting code
> is not necessarily tested anymore. I mean:
>
>  1. Write new code based on upstream commit AAAA.
>  2. Test the new code: OK, it's working.
>  3. Want to push the code to the upstream.
>  4. Upstream branch has advanced to commit BBBB.
>  5. "git pull --rebase" so that the new code is now based on BBBB.
>  6. "git push" pushes untested code to the upstream.

How is the --rebase flag responsible for the ultimate issue (untested
code pushed upstream)?  Step 6 could happen just as well with a merge
unless I'm missing something?

>       So it can be seen: "My branch really worked, just 'git checkout'
> it and try, but it broke when I merged it with the upstream. Now let's
> find out why these two branches together cause trouble." Maybe this kind
> of recorded development history is useful in bug hunting too.

Focusing on merge commits may be a good heuristic to find *when*
(i.e. at which recorded point in the VC history) things broke, but it's
not a big help to find *why* IMO.  No issue will show up on either
branch until the merge, so you're just left with an unintelligibly big
diff to make sense of.

When it comes to bug hunting, I find it more straightforward to bisect
on a linear history.  Eventually I'll find which rebased commit is
responsible for the breakage, and it will be easier to find the issue in
this individual commit's diff.


I don't have a strong opinion on rebasing vs. merging, although FWIW I
do find merge commits noisy, and as explained above they make it less
straightforward (for me) to bisect.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200816182558.16607.52991@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20200816182601.16F2A209AC@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2020-08-16 18:34   ` master bdda935 2/2: Merge branch 'master' of git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/emacs Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-16 19:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-16 19:13       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-17 14:15     ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-17 14:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-17 15:37         ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-17 16:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-17 16:03         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-08-17 19:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-17 20:05             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-08-17 20:31               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-18  9:41                 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-18 16:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-18 18:47                     ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-19  5:16                     ` Madhu
2020-08-19 13:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-17 15:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-17 16:11         ` Paul Eggert
2020-08-17 16:26           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-17 16:29             ` Paul Eggert
2020-08-17 17:01               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-17 17:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-17 18:03               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-17 18:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-17 18:43                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-17 19:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-17 20:05                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2020-08-18 19:02                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-08-19  3:56                         ` Amin Bandali
2020-08-19 13:04                         ` Stephen Leake
2020-08-19  9:13                     ` Rebasing vs. merging Teemu Likonen
2020-08-19  9:49                       ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2020-08-19 14:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-19 16:09                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-08-19 16:22                         ` John Wiegley
2020-08-17 18:45                   ` Rebasing vs merging (was: master bdda935 2/2: Merge branch 'master' of git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/emacs) Óscar Fuentes
2020-08-17 17:02           ` master bdda935 2/2: Merge branch 'master' of git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/emacs Eli Zaretskii

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