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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264089 Archived-At: Hello, On Sat 06 Feb 2021 at 09:37PM +01, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: > >> I'm sorry for more bikeshedding, but may I suggest using C-x c instead >> of C-x x? >> >> I just spent some time trying to repeatedly type C-x x followed by some >> letter and I found that I kept typing C-x C-x by mistake. Perhaps >> others will have the same tendency. >> >> It also has the mnemonic that C-c C-something typically act >> on the current buffer, and we're talking about current buffer commands. > > After trying it a bit, `C-x c' is indeed a bit easier to type than > `C-x x', but as Eli says, it's a bit more dangerous... At least > `C-x C-x' is a harmless command. > > But speaking of `C-c' -- I just tried `C-c C-h' (to get a list of > bindings under `C-c'), and all I got was: > > Global Bindings Starting With C-c: > key binding > --- ------- > > And nothing more. Same for `C-c C-x C-h'. And it's this way in Emacs > 25.1, too... But those are reserved for major modes, right? Or did you have something else in mind? -- Sean Whitton