From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:17:25 +0100 Message-ID: <87y2efhx3e.fsf@gnus.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg4n9jei.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15377"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 19:23:09 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPCn-0003u0-00 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:23:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOPCm-00067T-2J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:23:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOP7Q-0001uA-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:17:36 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:35258) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOP7O-0002oW-Cd; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:17:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gUSvRoSYEWEjnrm4sA9FJs5fLyyzIk048MzcLg2ajSw=; b=Y9VuYYn5XGlqA04jggQ35ZHni0 8+/f3r6GlUuIwle0+jo0jNJDZxHsguaOp9hfOOAbEDTw4NY9XY7txrCjMmwHg+zBn3pohDRpkt1rt 7yFNZH2qkRc/GnLMSHmRu+z8KsfL3Bjg8ET1gSKUt/rH4hyAnruJK7/DLvndePF64yJ4=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOP7H-0008BV-9K; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:17:31 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEUZKTEZKTIkOkUt SVdNU2JJc4v////jk2ZGAAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+UDFhIKHqfN8PUAAAG6SURBVDjL lZNNkhoxDIVl4ACWMgdoyxwgWMwesDlAKvT9rzKS7G7oYbKIiuqFPz/9WA8A4lzYgiJsgkmYRWoi ZJp2EeK0m/R8l1QgIn+v5SYfUuRWc5HrpILMWUG9nv6U/eGSW91fjucISJZfQZMsR9HbWT+/JkDM DiQjEMbDbxXsLwyQhkIYrZVju7Xc2g2AnKxAPq6H1upFFcheXIHNcaz13Ko0AEwdFEaThEi7PuiS iDm5JPjPBnfACwjaZnwB/loYgycLAb8BtDyKY3QgJS+59BA1VsDSNdqXA5cq8LaMJAQc0WuMQZTE odDOeBTRjyULq4T6g4iM6VeAG5D+BTgtuXQfBnhh6UXhgy+At+AZRSW0gPxKVEKsWzWXrIe2u6K3 bWZT8BO0nsvBWKG2aqDKBvSQdp8ftbyDfL7PcxsSCOMUEzp4SJk6oL5VDRIFc5WTXX4HXmULMH8q mFvVKk8AagQ6z060PkP/D/qWYYCHnAzgSGVey/cOigPivjiT2PA6vSQCL5LMBObcvL6xefIJujWK Ld+AEregVfHEaqQEneh1B2BWhNGL+zVCQHiLfj3AT/Hz6X/FFzD4giiy6Z5hAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRl OmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAzLTIyVDE4OjEwOjI5KzAwOjAwOkGeSgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkA MjAyMS0wMy0yMlQxODoxMDoyOSswMDowMEscJvYAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Tuxedomoon's _Desire_: "Victims of the Dance" In-Reply-To: <83sg4n9jei.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:40:21 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266779 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I don't use `C-o' myself, so I can't really say to what degree this >> would be annoying or not for users. Any `C-o' users who have an opinion >> here? > > I use it _a_lot_. `M-o M-o' seemed to be a command that many people were unaware of, but when they learned of what it was used for, they recognised the utility of such a command. (I was certainly one of them.) I've tried using `C-o' here and there, but it never seems to do what I want, so I wonder what the practical use case for this command is. I'm probably missing something. That is, I expected the command to go from this: (defun eww-detect-charset (html-p) (let ((case-fold-search| t) to this: (defun eww-detect-charset (html-p) (let ((case-fold-search| t) Instead it gives me this: (defun eww-detect-charset (html-p) (let ((case-fold-search| t) The | character gives the point position. In text-like modes it seems less awkward, since I just `M-q' afterwards anyway. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no