From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:33:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87y2ef53om.fsf@gnus.jao.io> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19328"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Edu3E+v5x7dyP/FSzv3BHARdPU8= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 22:11:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lORpm-0004ua-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:11:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lORpj-00042R-BY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:11:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lORmU-0000x9-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:36708) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lORmT-0001t9-EG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lORmQ-0000uB-7f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:08:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Attribution: jao X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett X-URL: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266833 Archived-At: On Mon, Mar 22 2021, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Gregory Heytings writes: > >> Well... the suggested experiment does not remove C-o, it changes C-o >> in a way that is, I believe, painless. > > Sorry; I didn't read the patch carefully. So it basically moves `C-o' > to `C-o C-o' (and makes the `C-o' prefix open for new commands)? > > I don't use `C-o' myself, so I can't really say to what degree this > would be annoying or not for users. Any `C-o' users who have an opinion > here? I use C-o very, very often, to the point that i am sure that i will pretty soon rebind it to its former meaning (and lose easy accesibility to the new map, most possibly to my disadvantage, but old habits die hard). Something similar happened to me with M-g, if memory serves, but admittedly here the fact that repeating it "will work" might ameliorate my reaction. Cheers, jao -- Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the idea is quite staggering. -Arthur C Clarke, writer (1917- )