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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279584 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 22:40:19 +0300 >> >> If the old farts (no offence) insist on using *Choices*, then using >> ascii characters is silly. There should be a variable that gives an >> upper-bound for spelling suggestions perhaps. If that bound would be 10 >> by default, then just use the digits. Otherwise, the characters used >> should be latin lower-case english letters. (Typing digits is hard). >> Either one or two letters, depending on the number of suggestions. That >> gives as much as (expt 26 2) choices, which is more than enough. > > A tempest in a teapot, if you ask me. I'm a heavy user of > spell-checking, always have been. IME, the correct choice is almost > always '0', rarely '1', i.e. the very first candidates. If you see > something else, switch to a different speller. Or use the drop-down > menu of Flyspell ("C-c $"). What speller do you use, if I may ask? Well, it's a tempest in a teapot, since you ignored my starting point. There's a bug, afaik, and I've described it. Let me remind you below. > Is it even possible to select, i.e. type, a characters that is above > ?~??? > (The historical reason why Ispell uses digits is that this is how the > UI of the original Ispell worked; Hunspell still behaves the same even > today.) Same for aspell. I'm well aware of these historical details. On another subject, I wonder what would be worth to burn cycles on. And how to deal with the idiosyncrasies of the gatekeepers of this community. -- Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"