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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290117 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 22 May 2022 at 09:57pm -07, Sean Whitton wrote: > If we miss some of them out because we've since added C-x 5 5, > we are asking the user to keep track of which things under C-x 4 have > bindings under C-x 5 and which don't -- one has to remember that C-x 4 > C-j exists but C-x 5 C-j doesn't. I meant: one has to remember that C-x 5 p and C-x 5 d exist but C-x 5 C-j doesn't. -- Sean Whitton