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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290968 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > That's very unfortunate, because the current implementation is not > clean enough, IMO. I cannot convince myself that we will never use > stale DX/DY values; can you? I'm convinced: the DX and DY are always valid when `tip_frame' is a live frame, and we don't use them otherwise. > Plus, using static variables means only one such instance can ever be > supported -- another restriction we'd be better without. We already cannot refer to tip frames, and the toolkits we use currently only support displaying a single system tooltip at the same time. So there will be significantly more work involved in supporting multiple tooltips than eliminating a few of the static tooltip state variables, of which there are already a few anyway: tip_frame, tip_window, tip_timer, tip_last_string, tip_last_frame and tip_last_parms.