From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 14:57:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87y1vdg5o6.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <83wnb1bt96.fsf@gnu.org> <87a67vuwmo.fsf@gnus.org> <41a702f1-60fb-65fb-3862-d198c46cd6e6@gmail.com> <87sflnqaub.fsf@gnus.org> <87a67vhtat.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10635"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:z0x6hyzcdeNZlF63FxfQTUIVrlc= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 24 15:08:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQq7b-0002W9-0A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 15:08:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52596 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQq7a-0007GT-1b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 09:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQpxE-0004R9-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:57:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:35590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQpxB-0004hB-Qg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQpx9-0008Cl-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 14:57:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294011 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: >> CMake has the advantage of supporting multiple "backends" for the build >> phase, and `ninja' provides a significant speed-up over `make' on large >> projects. > > Using ninja would translate into an hard dependency on python and I > don't think this is acceptable. Also I'm not really sure ninja is > faster than make. Ninja does not depend on Python, maybe you are confusing it with some other system. The performance advantage of ninja over make is a well stablished fact. For LLVM the difference is quite substantial, discovering that precipitated the phasing out of the configure&make build and the transition to the cmake-based build after years of being a second-class system.