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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297839 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Given what this command does, according to the documentation just > posted, I suggest we call it > > package-dev-source > > or > > package-upstream-source > > to correspond clearly to what it does. Which command specifically? `package-vc-install' or some other command? > Corresponding index entries could be these two. > > @cindex package development source > @cindex package upstream source > > Whether it is good to include them depends on what the > sorted index will look like with them and without them. > One or both might be redundant, or miht not. OK, I will try that out. > In the case of NonGNU ELPA, which repo does this access? > Our repo? That is open, the repository it uses depends on the metadata that ELPA provides. If that is missing it uses a heuristic to guess a repository from the URL, in case contains a link to a "well-known" source force. As I was planning to work on adding the Metadata to ELPA, I'm curios to know what you think would be preferable? From the tone of your question I would guess the ELPA mirror, right? If so, I'd be interested what difference it would make.