From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@gmail.com>,
gregory@heytings.org, rms@gnu.org, m.eliachevitch@posteo.de,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Grammar checking
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 12:55:45 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1nd9j1q.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838rfd2mmf.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> There is this: https://github.com/mhayashi1120/Emacs-langtool
>> Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcFOqkLm00o
>
> Is the tool any good in practical use (as opposed to marketing-like
> presentations)? Did someone try to use it in real use cases, like
> when writing significant amounts of prose, and if so, could those who
> did try that please share their experience and impressions?
I am using it in real-life scenarios for authoring.
LanguageTool the most sophisticated Libre grammar checker around, AFAIK.
It is not ideal and certainly miss various mistakes in comparison with
proprietary tools like Grammarly, but still much, much better than ispell
and other Libre grammar/style checkers I tried.
> We need in Emacs a free grammar checker that really is up to the job,
> not just any free program. The result should be Emacs features that
> we can be proud of.
I am not 100% sure if LanguageTool is going to be useful universally.
While it is quite good and even allow extending itself with neural
network models, the performance is not great - even for smaller texts it
is taking a lot of CPU and requires 5-15s of seconds to check the amount
of text constituting my emails (mostly due to slow loading time though).
For larger texts, time scales up to 10s of seconds - minutes.
I usually use it similar to M-x ispell-buffer - for checking the
complete write-ups.
Also, extending LanguageTool may not be easy, unless using development
version. It has some strange design decisions - users cannot easily
supply custom local rules, AFAIK. (Or my google fu is not good enough)
That said, I had some success feeding buffer text to LanguageTool
asynchronously - paragraph by paragraph.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-31 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-31 7:46 Grammar checking Payas Relekar
2023-03-31 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 12:55 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-03-31 13:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 13:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-31 12:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 13:59 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 14:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 6:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 7:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 7:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 13:09 ` Peter Oliver
2023-04-01 13:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 13:24 ` Peter Oliver
2023-04-01 13:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-01 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-03 13:02 ` Peter Oliver
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-04-03 5:52 grammar checking Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-04-03 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-03 15:01 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-03-31 10:03 Grammar checking Payas Relekar
2023-03-29 3:00 jinx Richard Stallman
2023-03-29 22:46 ` jinx Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-31 4:29 ` jinx Richard Stallman
2023-03-31 6:51 ` jinx Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 7:10 ` jinx Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 7:15 ` Grammar checking (was: jinx) Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 7:47 ` Grammar checking Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31 8:09 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 8:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31 9:02 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 11:37 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-31 12:01 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 12:45 ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 15:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31 17:00 ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 12:54 ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 13:09 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 12:12 ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 15:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-31 8:40 ` Nasser Alkmim
2023-03-31 8:45 ` Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-31 13:44 ` Felician Nemeth
2023-03-31 16:03 ` Peter Oliver
2023-03-31 8:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-04-01 12:59 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-01 13:18 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-04-01 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 17:30 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-01 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02 3:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-02 15:24 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-03 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-03 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-06 12:29 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-08 3:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-08 13:33 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-08 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08 3:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-08 15:20 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 5:13 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-09 9:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-09 12:31 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-22 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-23 2:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-23 14:14 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-08 3:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-08 14:23 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-31 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-02 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-02 3:40 ` Emanuel Berg
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