From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496) Date: Fri, 05 May 2023 03:02:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87y1m3bnff.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87bkj1ar9n.fsf@yahoo.com> <7e6334ce-c9a3-2c58-d263-fa962f0c2f7d@web.de> <877ctocfpq.fsf@telefonica.net> <87zg6jab1f.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37553"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:4KtM9ne1O4mFen92e9Vx2OJVYSA= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 05 06:31:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pun6V-0009b7-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 06:31:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pun5m-0003NN-P0; Fri, 05 May 2023 00:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pujqK-0007iF-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 21:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pujqJ-00063q-0R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2023 21:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pujqG-0005M6-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 May 2023 03:02:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 May 2023 00:30:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305846 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Óscar Fuentes writes: > >> What's wrong with saying "iconified or minimized"? > > Because ``minimization'' is a form of iconification. Most users don't know this. >> IIRC a few years ago there was on this list some acknowledgment of the >> problems posed by using obsolete terminology in Emacs and some actions >> were discussed to converge to modern wording up to some extent. > > ``minimize'' is not modern terminology. It is simply terminology used > by proprietary window systems. KDE and AwesomeWM (just to mention the window managers I have installed on this machine) are not proprietary. AFAIK Gnome also uses "minimize" on its user-oriented documentation, so does Xfce and LXQt.