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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305942 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Monnier >> , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 06 May 2023 18:44:35 +0000 >> >> > If package-upgrade was not in Emacs 28, how did users upgrade >> > installed packages in Emacs 28 and before? >> >> They invoked M-x list-packages, waited for the upgrade to appear, >> selected them with U and then executed the update with x. This is what >> used to work, and what will continue to work. > > But only if package-install-upgrade-built-in is non-nil, right? No, that is unrelated since that user option has no effect on the package menu. Upgrading via U only works if the user has already installed a package from ELPA. So in this case, a user would have to run M-x list-packages, select and install Eglot, thereby instructing package.el to load the local version instead of the version bundled with Emacs. This procedure is how users would have upgraded from a older version of project.el, for example. This works regardless of what package-install-upgrade-built-in has been set to. That is only related to how the `package-install' command works. >> > I don't see a zero-sum game here. We could focus on both. But I >> > don't use package.el and never will, so if those who use it and >> > maintain it think otherwise, I won't insist. Although I find this >> > stance very strange indeed, to say the least. >> >> (This explains some of the confusion, I was under the assumption that >> some of your questions were from a position of Socratic ignorance, > > You should know me better. In that case I admit to plain ignorance. :) -- Philip Kaludercic