From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: pkg-autoloads.el vs. pkg-loaddefs.el Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 12:56:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87y1adrria.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28340"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 20 13:57:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rmvVZ-0007FL-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:57:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rmvUr-0006xn-E3; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:56:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rmvUk-0006xL-Un for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:56:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rmvUi-00032U-Nd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62BD3240028 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:56:34 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1710939394; bh=8oJynKZYz75W+74eaA7HqQhrobnwmIG3X//F17zuas8=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:From; b=IhDKCk8jYSVXPVfHlHdXrl444+U287S36cQkHa67JHFycqCt8ZJsLYXUtwJ6uNBon DMc0HI7Z/PjQWNy+jrXtUSpGmyUgBd9e1abPx1TNpKKjYbJJzRsTgtb+S75jaZu3JE g8oMEnF4GZuVrQbf9Hka6R9plRU155AVAf1j9l4YXbybWFA8mtA+KmM+rDs6O+zRun t5wer7hX3hyv62TifNox6ShqSkwVQefpgpqw1I4vCdXTOMxmOh775iKPTvUZOUALXS h5szCfNVmXfV6BMGnkzHnC+Bcw3Q7vJyDqGrNqWuS6LKCspCOfpe4Fe9RNamta11o3 RNwEYv/i/UDzg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4V07rd55cfz9rxB for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:56:33 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317214 Archived-At: Hello, According to 43.1 Packaging Basics section of Elisp manual, package autoloads are saved into pkg-autoloads.el file. However, on master, there is also `generated-autoload-file' variable that can override the file name where to write the autoloads. So, pkg-autoloads.el is not always the file where autoloads are written. Further, `elpaa-batch-generate-autoloads' in ELPA/admin/elpa-admin.el hard-codes pkg-autoloads.el. And I got a report that in some Emacs packages distributed through ELPA (org-mode, tramp, hyperbole), both pkg-autoloads and pkg-loaddefs are generated. Finally, all the libraries in Emacs core are using name-loaddefs.el. I feel confused about where to use which name. There is apparent inconsistency in the above facts. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at