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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1361890ddafd762d8beadb3a352f0149; Thu, 25 Jul 2024 11:38:28 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Arash Esbati's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:03:04 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22501 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic305-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322082 Archived-At: Arash Esbati writes: > My impression is that the statement above also applies to the NS-port. That is correct, and is reflected in the condition of the NS port. >> This is not an April 1 joke: if there's a significant community >> interested in being able to run and develop Emacs on MS-Windows, >> someone should volunteer to take care of the build on a day to day >> basis, or else the conclusion is that there's no general interest in >> that platform among the Emacs community that is high enough to justify >> the investment. > > I think there is a demand for Emacs on non-free systems, notably Windows > and macOS, so dropping the support isn't helpful. But as you said, it > becomes a dead end if the official maintainers don't have the time > and/or willingness etc. to do the job there and no one else steps > forward. So let's hope that interested parties, having received this fair warning, make their presence known.