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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323900 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > But if it really is the case that we haven't found the right solution, > perhaps we should remove the keyword from the next release, or at least > mark it as some kind of an experimental feature? I have no opinion as to the default behaviour, but having the :vc keyword as a builtin is quite useful. It would be unfortunate for it to be removed (and a step back IMO, unless some mechansim with equivalent functionality is provided). -- Suhail