From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An anonymous IRC user's opinion Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:10:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87y133u4bf.fsf@web.de> References: <19ed5fa4ec0d3be9cfddc92ce2c78e47f2a3efb6.camel@octave.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10582"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Jordi =?utf-8?Q?Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Hermoso , Emacs development discussions To: Eduardo Ochs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 04 20:11:56 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1swmmS-0002Ye-Tr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swmlc-0006Xp-9n; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 14:11:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swmlZ-0006X7-Ee for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 14:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swmlX-00017U-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 14:11:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1728065446; x=1728670246; i=arne_bab@web.de; bh=yoc6FZrUJLRjI2DNuooEX1uUM3A/pyTUneN/Ta+fm04=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=uT6XJ+xWLTgMFirQmF556kMcmtrNLj0T9XFUBvQYXtFsxoReZix+go85S8gjDUuL Vnbz1uiKBJnzarnVyD/939XvaALllzusB1kefv6ZrQcu+JyX+a44sDarVs3fqo9eo hgHhvVmLmtGLZAAIV4KZab+sxx1057SMg0kFpaF9mLHPdFcNIAXNq3RlF99rcG2m1 /8MKWzObqdojz6QVxMMZNoEDpYHejn76ZIJAamI1DILJ7+Ev22Cfcqx/FKAYlP7mZ CoKz67HPwCbiYRBLzj5KzUhpwSAzvQdw40Zdc/oBRoPP1KXIQdwgDycGrRRoLDNCH Gfyr9YQVqS+8yETFdA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Original-Received: from fluss ([84.165.28.123]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mav2l-1tZ8Jx2HQB-00gY5Y; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:10:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Eduardo Ochs's message of "Fri, 4 Oct 2024 13:25:25 -0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cOZaGAYDddR/BUd6a21tJGUjc6KVL5BUh1MlznzFzNBaJA8+ms3 sBlaFU6uC6MxR6Q5gyKTv4rXMquQo60L3D1UhHuPSgBcT0p8R6+wa8OfgfyeGHSHQO34yk1 odZjojmvebjCKtEhdAaL5kJ71t9vrS7BvjUPXW0uDA3I7gdva4Cdj5kMPTMR4G2gT0MCkLg wsoUtU6SjmzBUIMjVDh4Q== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:sK9TjHCKlyk=;K8xekf0A0L8OvNx5AVr2I2D+en5 heCLdL5Or2s/NuT78+iJUHtHywcqxwQBd+x/Vdueh9fNdSMrv69rAoJh/fOSi3AOMq0XlShwk QryDAhNbvhYgaseiwM647RJW00BQEg3/ZPagN+jNvo+T30xkjQMItjoCLzxCW7BBDzFtCbsa4 gDuUfsGnAxqw9FPBsbuqf4ZnLvSBw9Ue0b3EhpbyXugjivv9Rr7Y7kSaHzFQuP7hhScD+RxZK g+9mPdPlUv+drnjUMNNmsTis8ohc3QioRm8HU3urK5iJd5OwHFyA06fEGGi10CdK0PNGBobnr txT3Z0ExwY+0KaCrdQmsMfNNn3sV6wwMGhM5RL3TMH+ZNaedc/9boZySIWpimvipNADgkpIhQ RnUnvg+I9f6M6HVv671qdOWyzoxxtaP2lEBN/UwDDb8hEDUKIe6+v8QcWwQwyE2LqLoBEpS/J IQSoeWbc12zdWCny/wzvaOvEmGsQWxUv68FD4sp3rA1NIs9Vu5n+EWQXGdC+8mUeKpWv3+Z6k kD/o/svj/KDQYy1ADWxAjbYYNP4bcyh7QrftPlXGHca3pkrveuw7/b/4OMCOTRMOuAU9w09C7 KMEiPSAK2BqUe0LjqjJre/80vKTMazCJ0XNp0KEzZxjJgEEY5lklgDDSNj3q/vB4L9xnWjpum kzYgNSqZoP5j6rkRPlUeW0u4YB1Jao1lFffbzxTe7PErsI7zLcQSiOx+q3mlceB9YJ0fTzDgf lNwcTOCV/jrSs7xBP1lmjyNPSi3lOr6U37jB1x1bLm8KAqcvKED9DWIZ+1jQimHTdP1wCS0p Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.3; envelope-from=arne_bab@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:324318 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eduardo Ochs writes: > is that I don't know how it would be developed and what its prototypes > would look like... While I=E2=80=99m not the anonymous, I see something similar when I look at= the marketing of IntelliJ: they have PyCharmm, WebStorm, and so forth, which are mainly different flavors of IntelliJ. From=20that I could imagine a similar approach to provide different installers that install a pre-configured Emacs for the specific task. On distributions that may mean providing meta-packages which install required elpa-packages and are started from a script that prepares a $HOME/.emacs.d/ for the specific flavor of Emacs if it does not exist already. Best wishes, Arne =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein, ohne es zu merken. draketo.de --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAmcAL6UQHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD6zW9D/49oTfg4V8YgBCpuWJy6yJEbg+COwrwM94B cGC+F8hXoG2a1+0AQZXeQIW5enESxPl1k82Tdp2SGvwqI+eXYtGQz4Th7fwpNPlO PIRZGUwIkdfiZu/t7AN6Moep1LtdI5IGuPR8VxA6DrJTHBYEOP/84Sk9z4L/QcWB 0PI9X2IbfDpLZtvwVFf5X7Q9fSjB79BElzm4KNpFrqk7ulSQyw4mR9itR9vBewiB MdnNfQuiFTUsqjxSCJOsczmhRVPAAxd/5Gqtr4ZQlFBT+QM6ZqTg9VBujPrJ/HFG sZd55WAUivjaWsLR12g3X37AzjczRLpTNW2EKzRuaCKKPxmBEpwV84jIvLHgod8t eKenBcu/h0oBDFKVxPjac+wVl/hzhvWFZ2l7UTu8g3sWVbqn30Le7WETXJLGZcVs GXqVhG6skgBW96O9xoCmejPbAD67inQDKyKGq5RuIPMBmBRhBiIBC15QQ0YVJ7gW 3pnwdPv+LKEcCdIn7NjAIcYflD3FPA4umNok872ZubMjmVkp0sRRAJzxU1Dhk7+x puauP149qdlDZEtlUjbkAARpfkPgOICF6E6ecrsAVYc9XVSeXwKtxTG2nSQwMVLs kDFJutBRc5hT8nwZQ9eHx4ISmAyY/qt3Zoxlph2eLA6vAJeK9JlU+RBJGfHGueBr jhE7KIZ3sojEBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAmcAL6UQHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSGulA/43N0darR4I5kQUov7ElpjuwOMV +ftUbLTQ/TmwxzYoAuolhMuqUgvG/yQ25z0U9k/eqeAoBUec13y2+d8coondVjG2 DDQSexjvRWAniw27lV+sSSwTrDn553hx6oRya38rshvFexbjr+FSTSfRMlYnBCFE jyn0/ZCzhJBDWpn1Fg== =5LSj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--