From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <87x6v29lvv.fsf-monnier+emacs__33350.1147026711$1135529920$gmane$org@gnu.org> References: <708F3D2D-A87C-4F80-BC27-171D82653F4D@gmail.com> <069BF3EB-C5E4-4042-91E9-0DFB37C58E99@gmail.com> <87u0d3cu9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87y82b7evb.fsf@jurta.org> <9F80EEEC-3EDF-47B5-9837-2091650A8C5D@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135529920 17715 80.91.229.2 (25 Dec 2005 16:58:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, David Reitter , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 25 17:58:36 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqZCb-0005io-6S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:58:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqZDk-0005Uq-VK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:59:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EqZDb-0005Ud-BB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:59:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EqZDa-0005UR-Sr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:59:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqZDa-0005UO-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:59:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.184] (helo=tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EqZDF-00046f-Q2; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:59:14 -0500 Original-Received: from alfajor ([67.71.26.92]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20051225165820.FMMO16473.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:58:20 -0500 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9E831D7643; Fri, 2 Jan 1970 03:36:49 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org Original-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1970 03:36:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:51:22 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Originating-IP: [0] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48353 Archived-At: > But I would suggest improving find-file to catch the error in switch- > to-buffer and show the buffer in another window in that case, at > least when called interactively. > Why do you find it so often useful to invoke Find File > while you're in a minibuffer? Because I configure my Emacs similarly to what Epoch used to do. So when I start Emacs, I only get a one-line frame holding the minibuffer. And even later on when "real frames" are open (without their own minibuffer) they may be hidden or iconified, wheres my minibuffer-only-frame is always-on-top at the bottom of my display. Other cases of errors is when I use C-x C-f from a dedicated window/frame. Stefan