From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-break-space in tutorial Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:52:11 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87wtp5raj4.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87y8a1o9u0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87acmgubin.fsf@jurta.org> <87ll5yqbya.fsf@jurta.org> <87mzq3r70q.fsf@jurta.org> <873bruw4nw.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118189118 21433 80.91.229.2 (8 Jun 2005 00:05:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 08 02:05:11 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dfo3r-0003h7-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:04:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfoAS-00068L-PG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dfo9e-0005x7-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dfo9a-0005vE-M4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:10:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dfo9a-0005u2-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:10:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dfo5x-0008WP-NM; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-33-254-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.33.254]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451DE272F; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:03:21 +0300 (EEST) Original-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:31:20 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38291 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38291 > This is your _opinion_, which I disagree with. I think dIsplaying > them with a modified background, if anything, looks worse, and is more ===================== > confusing to users than making them look like an "escape character", > which is already a familiar concept. > > In your post, you said you had "taken everybody's opinion into > account", which is clearly not true. Despite the initial objections > to your proposed changes, you simply went ahead and made them anyway. Perhaps, you missed something. It was your opinion about unsuitability of a modified background that I've taken into account before I started to think about a different solution. I fully agree with you that a modified background is a bad solution. That's why I installed for people to try a completely different patch which I think is much better than anything proposed so far. A new solution puts the underline attribute on non-breaking spaces. This appropriately reflects the purpose of non-breaking spaces ("gluing" words together) and is not as annoying as anything else. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/