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From: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org
Subject: Re: base64 behavior is not MIME compliant
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:10:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wto4j44m.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <k9oe9hey17.fsf@ayer.connecterra.net> (Marc Horowitz's message of "Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:35:48 -0400")

Marc Horowitz <marc@mit.edu> writes:

> "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>>     I received a piece of email which passed through an older MTA.  This
>>>     MTA inserted a ! and a newline after every 1000 characters of a very
>>>     long line of base64-encoded data, which used to be common behavior.
>>>     When Gnus tried to display this email, it failed, because the !
>>>     characters were not recognized as valid base64 encoding.
>>
>>> Maybe I misunderstood what you were asking for.  I thought you
>>> were asking us to make additional base64-decode-region signal
>>> errors in cases where currently it does not.  But now it looks
>>> like you are asking for it to accept input that now gives
>>> an error.
>
> I'm sorry I was confusing.  To quote my earlier email:
>
>     I believe the best fix is for base64-decode-region to take an optional
>     argument which specifies how liberal it should be about it's input,
>     defaulting to the current behavior, and for Gnus to use this argument.
>
> Defaulting to the current behavior should certainly not mean
> signalling errors in new cases.  You are correct that I'm asking for a
> behavior variant which would result in more input being accepted.  If
> this variant became the default, I would not object, but I would
> certainly understand if you did not want to change the default
> behavior.
>
>>> Could you give a self-contained description of the change that you are
>>> requesting in the behavior of this function?
>
> For the purposes of reading mail, it is valuable to ignore all
> characters not part of the base64 character set when decoding.  So, my
> minimum proposal would be for base64-decode-region to ignore all
> unknown characters, instead of signalling errors in this case.
>
> It would be more generally useful to provide three forms of the
> base64-decode-region function, either by having three functions, or
> one with an optional argument:
>
>     Form 1: all characters not part of the base64 character set would
>     be ignored.
>
>     Form 2: any character not part of the base64 character set would
>     cause an error to be signalled.
>
>     Form 3: any character not part of the union of the base64
>     character set and the whitespace characters would cause an error
>     to be signalled.
>
> Form 3 is the current observed behavior.  I believe there is a need
> for Form 1, to make mail reading work more smoothly.  Form 2 mainly
> exists for completeness.

Why can't you just pre-parse the data parsed to the base64 decoder? I
believe that's the correct behaviour. A base64 decoder should decode
base64, not "base64 but also it does this extra trick if you wave your
hand in the air"


Nic

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-05 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <t53zmt4dce3.fsf@central-air-conditioning.toybox.cambridge.ma.us>
2005-07-03 20:43 ` base64 behavior is not MIME compliant Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-03 21:09   ` Nic Ferrier
2005-07-04  4:59   ` Marc Horowitz
2005-07-05  4:35     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-05 21:35       ` Marc Horowitz
2005-07-05 22:10         ` Nic Ferrier [this message]
2005-07-05 23:55           ` Marc Horowitz
2005-07-06  1:06             ` Nic Ferrier
2005-07-06  1:15           ` Ken Raeburn
2005-07-06  1:48             ` Nic Ferrier
2005-07-05 22:52     ` Arne Jørgensen

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