From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: paragraphs.el: do forward-sentence and friends not work? Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:00:12 +0900 Message-ID: <87wsp87hkj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <7BC345E9-711F-48AE-AF7F-CD3C51E96A47@gmail.com> <692473D9-ADB4-4485-ADA7-B46DF6CCCD9E@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202932435 10975 80.91.229.12 (13 Feb 2008 19:53:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: David Reitter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 20:54:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JPNgG-0005K9-Re for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:54:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPNfn-0006n4-8m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPNfh-0006lj-FW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPNff-0006l9-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPNff-0006kx-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPNfe-0007sj-M7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JPNfe-000218-Du for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPNfb-0007qm-B3 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPNfa-0007q1-QL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:53:27 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329231535AE; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:53:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3A17C1A29E5; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:00:13 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <692473D9-ADB4-4485-ADA7-B46DF6CCCD9E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20071205) XEmacs Lucid X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88975 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21066 Archived-At: David Reitter writes: > On 13 Feb 2008, at 17:27, Andreas Schwab wrote: > >> > >> Maybe I misunderstand the purpose of this function, but `forward- > >> sentence' doesn't work for me. It always jumps to the end of the > >> paragraph > >> rather than to the end of the sentence. > > > > You need to set sentence-end-double-space to nil. > > That works. Why is this variable not nil by default? Because AFAIK it's still Chicago Manual of Style-standard to follow a sentence-ending period with two spaces in typed documents. (Even with a proportional font, Emacs will not insert extra visual space to delimit a sentence unless it's present in the document.) Many people find this more readable; the only people I've ever seen say it's less readable undercut the argument by simultaneously complaining about the inefficiency of typing multiple spaces. So I think the default should be sentence-end-double-space is t to encourage readability.