From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:40:31 +0900 Message-ID: <87wsoc39i8.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205030481 13992 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2008 02:41:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 03:41:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYBTs-0002B0-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:41:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYBTK-0005ar-Jn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:41:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYBSw-0005S5-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:40:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYBSu-0005RK-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:40:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYBSu-0005RF-Je for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYBSn-0003bl-5a; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:40:37 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-96-086.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.96.86] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JYBSi-0003zO-VY; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:40:33 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AAA472FF7; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:40:31 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:18:37 -0500") Original-Lines: 23 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91841 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Basic CUA functionality is already split into a separate module, > > It sounds like basic CUA functionality includes more than this one > feature. If we want to install the shift-arrow feature by default, we > should install just that, and implement it in the best way we can. Try the code I posted yesterday (in this same thread, but with the Subject: line changed to "deactivation in "shift-select" mode"). It does a good job of implementing the desired shift-select functionality, with _extremely_ simple code. I think something similar would be a great basis for implementing this feature for default emacs use -- it's very simple and does exactly what's wanted for the typical user. -Miles -- Generous, adj. Originally this word meant noble by birth and was rightly applied to a great multitude of persons. It now means noble by nature and is taking a bit of a rest.