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From: Paul R <paul.r.ml@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:10:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wsn54owg.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 47FE49FA.3080306@emf.net

Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net> writes:

> And that observation ("whose got the time?") points out where the
> deeper problem is:
>
> The GNU project doesn't have enough money.
>

At least, it would surely benefit from more manpower. Hence, it would
need more people contributing on their free time. So how to get them ?
I don't have an out-of-the-box solution to sell, but as a start I
would recommend to show respect and listening to contributors, so that
they can feel they are part of the project, and not only free
manpower. Somebody wrote recently that emacs never was a democratic
project, and that masses are coming to Gnu, not the other way round.
Although I'm not sure if that was a joke or not, I highly recommand to
check that masses are still coming to Gnu Emacs. I doubt it,
sincerely. If Gnu Emacs wants more contributors, let's start to *face*
what are preventing them to come. As a start, some "long-settled
aspects of Emacs" should probably get revamped, and talking about them
here is a good start, IMO. Ignoring that will lead to a vicious
circle.

Please don't get me wrong, I really like Gnu Emacs, but being new in
emacs development, I can report all the obstacles I'm facing on this
path.

with much respect to emacs contributors, past and present,

-- Paul




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-10 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-09 21:09 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Drew Adams
2008-04-09 21:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-09 22:15   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-10  6:33     ` David Hansen
2008-04-10  9:20       ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-10  8:31     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-10 12:55   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 13:45     ` Paul R
2008-04-10 15:49     ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-10 15:45       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-10 16:24         ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-10 16:15           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-10 21:09             ` David Kastrup
2008-04-10 22:34               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-11  2:23             ` Glenn Morris
2008-04-11  5:03               ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-11  8:03                 ` tomas
2008-04-12  0:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12  1:13                   ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-12  5:49                     ` David Kastrup
2008-04-12  7:31                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 14:03                         ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-12 20:07                           ` David Kastrup
2008-04-12 21:24                             ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-12 20:34                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-11  8:41               ` Paul R
2008-04-11  9:40               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-10 17:10           ` Thomas Lord
2008-04-10 17:10             ` Paul R [this message]
2008-04-10 19:21               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-12  0:11         ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 16:18     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-12  0:09       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12  0:09       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-12  8:40         ` Nit-picking (was: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map) Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12  9:35           ` Nit-picking Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 10:30             ` Nit-picking Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 11:46               ` Being constructive [Was: Nit-picking] Alan Mackenzie
2008-04-12 13:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 14:14                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-12 16:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 17:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-12 21:38                 ` Mike Mattie
2008-04-12 15:06         ` 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map Drew Adams
2008-04-13  1:58           ` Richard Stallman

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